Devon aka Maestro Eternal has been on the Revival Synth radar for quite some time now, and it's always a pleasure to bring the talents of such musicians to as many followers of the website as I can.
A multi-instrumental musician for over 30 years and an audio engineer for 15 years. Maestro Eternal tells us about her past, her present, her hopes and dreams, and what the future holds for her.
Sit back, click on one of the links below and enjoy her beautiful music whilst you read this Q&A.
Q. Tell us a little bit about yourself and how your journey with music began.
A little about myself as a person. My name is Devon. I'm a composer, audio engineer & Solo Artist. I currently live in Austin, Texas along with my Sphynx cat Jupiter, fluffy orange cat Napoleon and puff ball Pomeranian dog Mochi. I've been a multi-instrumental musician for 31 years and I’ve spent around 14 years working as a Live and studio production Audio Engineer in the professional music industry.
I’ve had a long, long history with music in general. Haha. I’ll try not to bore everyone too much by going into a lot of detail or rambling on too long about my journey with music. Haha.
But my journey with music basically began with my grandma buying me a little Casio keyboard/ synthesizer for Christmas when I was around 3 years old. I think she really just got it for me as a fun little gift. But in a very short time, I had learned a ton of songs by ear, mainly classical songs. And to be honest, I don’t really have any childhood memories I can think of where my little Casio keyboard wasn’t there with me or I wasn’t toting it around or messing with it. Haha. From there, I never stopped learning music. All the music I learned at that time was by ear. I didn’t truly learn how to fully read piano sheet music until around my high school years. And even now, I’m still really horrible at sight-reading and such. Haha. I still prefer playing by ear. I started writing rudimentary compositions around 8 years old. Since I didn’t know how to read or write music, they were in these little codes that only I could decipher. I still have some of them in my stash of old writings and compositions. And some I’ve taken the time to transpose into legible pieces. I actually took one of those childhood compositions and adapted it into a cinematic Synthwave version and ultimately composed “Ortu” from my album “Curio”.
After high school, I went on to study orchestration & film scoring at Berklee College of Music in Boston. And a little after that, I became a certified audio engineer for Live sound and studio production. And starting around my early 20’s, I worked a lot in the live sound industry mixing for venues, clubs, events, etc. But I honestly got really sick of the sexism in that line of work at the time. I got constantly harassed and even denied work from one club because “the men would get too distracted” by my body. That’s an actual quote from someone that owned a club in San Antonio, Texas I had worked an event for. I didn’t let it keep me down though. As lots of musicians obviously know, you have to grow some pretty tough skin to work in the music industry. So I just kept going. But I did eventually move on from working at night clubs and event venues to focusing more on Broadcast Audio engineering for live TV and some more chill environments - if you can call it that - like studio production to get away from most of the toxicity that I experienced while working in the clubs and venues.
From such an early age, I had always known music was my calling. Of course, John Williams had a huge impact on me with Star Wars, Jurassic Park, and so on. But my obsession with storytelling through music really started taking hold on me when I was about 12. I distinctly remember watching the movie The Mummy. You know, the one with Brendan Fraser and Rachael Weisz and just absolutely falling in love with the musical score. It was done by Jerry Goldsmith and from then on, I became obsessed with film scoring and just having this deep knowing that I was meant to compose music that enhanced a story on screen or told a story through melodic imagery like I do with Maestro Eternal. And then came Howard Shore’s scoring of The Lord of the Rings. And I just died of happiness on the inside when I heard that score and watched that movie! Haha. And that cinematic feeling and vibe is what I’ve tried to create with Maestro Eternal. Even though I’m not a visual artist or film maker. I absolutely love capturing the magic of memories and feelings, especially of ones from my own childhood. I was born in the late 80’s and grew up in the 90’s. So I’m always striving to capture those nostalgic 80’s to 90’s feelings in music. It’s definitely a massive passion of mine.
I’ve always had a passion for film and orchestration. Yet I’ve also always considered myself an electronic music artist and synthesizer enthusiast. So I feel like Synthwave sort of called out to me in this respect. Especially the kind of music I began creating, which centers more around instrumental/ cinematic music that tells a story. I’ve always said my music is “the soundtracks for the movies inside your head”. I’ve had many people say to me that when they listen to my music, it’s like listening to a soundtrack to a movie they feel like they’ve seen before but doesn’t exist. And I try to always aim towards that goal in mind when I’m creating new music. My music, no matter what, will always lean towards the cinematic and I strive to always tell a story.
Q. Who were your musical influences?
Oh, I have so many musical influences! Haha. I have kind of a wide range of influences too. A lot of them are classical musicians since I come from a classical background. Musicians like Chopin, Beethoven and Debussy. I’ve been told by a few people that they can hear my Debussy influences in my songs like “Blue” from my album Curio. And “Sub-Etheric Video Levels” from my Isaac Asimov inspired album “C/Fe. Also, both my Darkwave/ horror inspired albums “Infernum” and “Valkyrie”have one song in each album that are centered around classical pieces as well.
I also have to give a massive shoutout to one of my major 80’s influences Vangelis! I think if I could sound like or have any kind of stage presence like anyone it would be him and his music/ performances for sure! He’s definitely a huge idol of mine! Also I can’t forget Giorgio Moroder as well! They both influence and inspire me so much and I honestly aspire to be like them. Haha. And of course I’m really influenced by more current film scorers like Hans Zimmer, Klaus Bladet, Harry Gregson-Williams, Howard Shore to name a few. And some of the rock bands that hugely influence me are definitely bands like Depeche Mode and Eurythmics. I’ve always wanted to be a combo of all these bands and people!
Q. What did you want to be when you were growing up?
An Astronaut or an astronomer. I’ve always loved space and it’s still a huge passion of mine! I think if I wasn’t a musician, I would definitely still pursue it. I’d definitely want to work for NASA or the McDonald Observatory.
Q. Who is the most influential person in your life?
My best friend, Zanah. She’s really been there for me through thick and thin. I trust her with my life and she inspires me every day. She’s such an incredibly strong and creative person. And I really look up to her. Honestly, she’s more like a sister to me. We’ve been friends since 3rd grade and she’s the best friend I could ever hope for. Zanah is actually the person who introduced me to the Synthwave genre! Before her, I had no idea that it even existed. I would always hear Synthwave music in the background of her car while she was driving or while she was coding on her computer. So I definitely owe her a lot for introducing me to it! Haha. She’s also the artist behind all of my album artwork as well! She’s the coolest person I know and I’m grateful to have the opportunity to call her my friend!
Q. Would you class your music as an autobiography of your memories?
Yes! I would definitely say that for the most part. Most of my music comes from things I’ve experienced and have felt very deeply in life. Mark Twain once gave the advice of “Write what you know” and I’ve always thought about this in regards to composing. If you’ve never felt it or known it or experienced it, how are you supposed to hope to convey it to others? At least, that’s my opinion about it. So I’d definitely say I pull from all sorts of memories when I make music and it paints a good autobiographical picture of life experiences.
Q. A lot of indie artists produce music for the love of it and not for financial gain. Do you think it’s fair that sites like Spotify exploit these artists and pay such a pittance for their tracks?
Oh, this one’s such a huge topic! Haha. And one I have a lot of thoughts on. But in short, I definitely don’t think it’s fair at all. I one hundred percent think they exploit artists and their hard work for capital gain which is just sad and appalling. I do feel like this isn’t something that’s really new or exclusive to this time period though.
Even musicians like Beethoven and Mozart had to take paying jobs, even sometimes humiliating jobs to write music they weren’t passionate about or perform things they hated where they weren’t paid nearly enough from what I’ve read about them in history books. I only use Mozart and Beethoven as examples because they were both musical geniuses who people aspire to be like and still compare things to. And even they had trouble with being exploited, used and not living a stable life as musicians. So many composers and musicians in those older time periods got exploited for capital gain and gawked at for entertainment purposes. And then on top of that, made fun of or looked down on because they weren’t upstanding, respected citizens like a doctor or a lawyer. My point is, it’s always been a twisted system when it comes to musicians. At least, I’ve never heard or read of a time when it wasn’t like this.
It definitely doesn’t make it right or fair. And I’m not saying that to excuse this kind of behavior at all from Spotify. It should’ve never been this way. But it’s not something I feel like is unique to Spotify by any means. I feel like Spotify gets a lot of flack for being evil and exploiting musicians. But they aren’t the first and definitely won’t be the last to do this. They’re just following a very old system of exploiting artists for entertainment. And it’s something I feel like musicians will always struggle with and/ or fight against. Hopefully one day, that will change.
Q. Have you collaborated with any other artists in the past?
In the past, I have definitely collaborated with other artists. But not as my band Maestro Eternal. I learned to be picky about who I collaborate with throughout the years. I’ve been taken advantage of when it comes to collaborations and I just decided to be more guarded about it. The collaborations I had been involved with always gave me that feeling of when you are assigned a group for doing a college or high school presentation and you’re the one that gets left with all the work because you’re the only hard-worker and want to do things right and get a good grade or just care in general? That’s what my collaborations in the past have reminded me of. And I just decided to not put myself through that as Maestro Eternal. At least when I first started out.
I used to do collaborations with anyone who wanted to do anything since it was just really fun to make music with others and to brainstorm about cool stuff to add to songs. But mostly all my experiences turned sour, some even ending my friendships with certain individuals, because of whatever reason like creative differences, communication problems, etc. and honestly they were just a waste of time in the end sadly. Because I wasn’t even able to share my own hard work on the projects due to the bad taste it left with me. I think I’m more open to it now than I’ve ever been and would definitely consider it more now. But I have a kind of unspoken rule with myself about the type of people I’d collaborate with because of all of that if that makes sense. And it doesn’t help that I’m very specific about my visions for my own music either. I always take responsibility for my own part in things and I’m definitely a huge perfectionist. And I know I might be a part of the problem in those past circumstances. Haha. So I take responsibility for some of it. I’m not an easy person to work with and I accept this about myself. Haha.
Q. You recently released a haunting cover of Johnny Cash’s ‘Ring of Fire’. It is also your first track to add your vocals. Why this particular track?
I’ve been working on this concept for about a year now. All of my darker tracks that I’ve released during October have been chosen because it’s been me working through something dark and deep within myself. Something that might scare me personally or I have unresolved issues with. All of my music and why I choose it always has some kind of multi-layered reasoning. I chose Ring of Fire because the original song itself is a very personal one for me. Although I don’t talk about his music much on my socials, Johnny Cash was a huge part of my childhood growing up because my dad was a massive fan. Some of my best memories with my dad were just chilling out and listening to Johnny Cash, especially Ring of Fire. He loved that song and popped in his cassette tape to play it all the time. The first song my dad ever introduced me to of Johnny Cash’s was Ring of Fire. I remember my eyes getting so wide, my heart beating so fast with excitement and smiling so big. I think he noticed the happiness on my face and I remember he said to me, “This is Johnny Cash.” And I remember he went on to explain to me that Johnny was a very inspirational and important musician and person. Someone who he respected and admired very much. And I never forgot that moment.
On another layer of reasoning of why I chose Ring of Fire, I chose to make a darker version of the song because I can’t listen to this song now without thinking of my dad in a pretty bittersweet way since he’s no longer with us. My dad passed in a sudden and tragic way and ever since then, listening to Johnny is such a mixture of emotions for me. I remember all the happy memories. But I also remember the sad things too. And I’ve always longed for a way to express that mixture of emotions I personally have with Johnny’s song Ring of Fire. And I’m really proud of the end result. I think it turned out exactly the way I wanted it to and it was also really healing for me in the process too.
Q. You were excited about the release but you were also nervous. Any particular reason why?
Haha. Yes, I was nervous for a few reasons. But the main one being that I just personally hate my own voice. And I’ve never really put it out there before for this reason. Since I’m a perfectionist, it never felt right and I was never usually happy with any kind of singing track I’d attempted to do in the past. Also, putting a vocal track out feels a lot more vulnerable than releasing an instrumental for me. There’s so much depth and emotion that I feel goes into the project itself. But mostly, I’m just beyond critical of my own singing voice. To be honest, I realize now that I was just seriously overthinking it and being super harsh and judgmental towards myself. I even got to the point during the process of making it and I was in the final mastering stages, where I wanted to trash it all and not release it. Haha. You know, typical artist stuff. But I decided to put it out there to overcome that in myself and to build confidence just to say I did it and I’m definitely glad I did!
Q. Has it given you encouragement to add your vocals to future tracks?
I still stand behind the fact that I feel like I have a weird or, should I say, unique voice. I think my voice would be considered an “alto” voice that at times can sound almost operatic or broadway if I’m not careful. Haha. I think it only fits certain song styles. I’ve been slowly overcoming my distain for my own vocals the more and more I put it out there and people respond positively towards it. Maybe that’s a sign I should do more? I’m not sure if that’s even something people would want to see produced by me? I really do wonder. My own voice is definitely not for every album I produce. But I may lean more towards putting in some vocals if it ends up fitting that particular vibe of the song or album.
That’s a good question. I’ve gotten this question from others as to why I’ve slowed down my production pace. The reason behind my slower pace in music production is more to do with the whole “quality versus quantity” viewpoint for me. On one hand, I’m the type of person that is capable of composing, recording and putting out music very quickly. For example, I composed my very first Synthwave album Neoteric Tumbleweed in about two weeks actually because I was so excited and set that particular goal for myself. And I look back on it and don’t regret it at all. But I also feel like I maybe could have spent more time on it and possibly made it better and I wish I would’ve given myself that leeway and a little more time on some aspects of it too. And I’ve had a few other projects like that where I felt almost pressured to produce because of social media and because I didn’t want to become irrelevant I guess. And I definitely think some of that pressure came from being in the pandemic. Since everyone was online so often it felt like I needed to keep up. I think those fears are valid in a way because once I slowed down, my Spotify listeners took a huge plummet. It was quite a drastic change. So I do think unless you keep up with uploading music constantly, you will kind of fade into the background. At least for indie musicians. Which is understandable and I get it. Some people forget about you when you’re not always popping up in their feed. Haha. I do think there’s great things that come from making music consistently and I’m not at all knocking it. If you have the strength, energy and time to put into it, I say more power to you and I’ll be rooting for you!
I don’t ever feel like I’ve sacrificed quality for the sake of putting music out there. But I felt like it could easily get there if I wasn’t careful or mindful of my process and my own needs if that makes sense. And also, I’m a very strong believer in “quality over quantity” especially when it comes to artistry and musicianship. And try to stay away from the mentality of wanting attention or getting famous. If that stuff comes, that would be great. But it’s about more than that for me.
So at the beginning of 2022, I posed the question to myself “But should I?” Should I be feeling that pressure just because I don’t want to disappear into the background of social media or Spotify? Should I be pushing myself to release music every month or every other month just because I can? I realized this kind of “hustle” mentality was making me feel burned out for all the wrong reasons. I’m hardly ever burned out on actual composing or being a musician and definitely feel like I would be able to produce anything very quickly if I had a deadline. But the constant content creation, promotions, marketing of music in this day and age weighed on me. It was taking so much energy away from me to actually compose and practice and create. I’ve heard tons of musicians talk about their own struggles with this aspect of being a musician in 2022. So I definitely know I’m not alone in feeling this way. So I guess it’s mainly been to protect myself and my own sanity while still remaining true to myself as an artist/ musician. Haha.
So with all of that in mind, I had to take a step back from posting every day and I thought to myself that I should take as much time as I need to really create well thought-out, well-crafted ideas. That way I’m able to distance myself from the pressures of social media and I’m really able to ruminate on my own unique thoughts, concepts and musical ideas. And I can say for my future projects, I actually did my absolute best on these and didn’t sacrifice anything due to time and didn’t feel pressured to produce for the sake of it. I’m actually working on an album called “Epica” right now that I’ll be releasing this year in December and I have a few other projects in the works as well with this mentality in mind.
Q. What other activities or hobbies do you like to do when not producing music?
I love to read a lot and write too. Some of my favorite writers are Isaac Asimov, Philip K Dick, Ray Bradbury, JRR Tolkien, and Bram Stoker to name a few. Haha. And I could read anything from any of these writers all day long. Haha.
Also, about a year ago I started a personal writing blog that has been a fun little side hobby of mine when I get a chance to write. I write a lot of dark drama, thriller and horror short stories and poems. A lot of it is slow burn and thought-provoking type stuff. I don’t really do it for anyone else by myself. But if anyone wants to check it out, you’re very welcome to! You can find my writings I’ve shared at devoneternal.wordpress.com
I’d also say astronomy is another one of my major hobbies. (Not to be confused with astrology. Haha.) I’m pretty obsessed with the scientific aspect of the stars, other planets and so on. And I’m very into quantum and theoretical physics as well. I even took tons of astronomy classes when I was in college and really entertained it as a possible career path for a while. Outer space calls to me and always will. Haha. And I think I’d also consider a branch of this hobby would be my fascination with supernatural stuff as well. Like UFOs/extraterrestrials and ghosts. Haha. I love watching stuff like Unsolved Mysteries and hearing people’s weird encounters and stories about stuff that’s totally unexplainable. I would definitely consider myself a skeptic and I don’t know what to actually believe. But I do love thinking outside the box and theorizing about what these things could possibly be!
Bringing it back to earth… Haha. I also absolutely adore rollerblading! I haven’t gotten the chance to do a whole lot of that this year in 2022. But I started skating in the summer of 2021 with my best friend in order to get out of the house after the height of the pandemic so we could get some fresh air and exercise. And I just fell in love with it so much!
Q. You have many talents, the ability to play 10 different musical instruments is one. Which ones are they and do you use all of them on your productions?
Yes! Haha. I do play 10 different instruments. All of them I’ve played for different reasons throughout my lifetime. Some of them I’m not particularly great at, like the violin. Haha. I’ve been playing it for ten plus years now and still feel like I suck at it. Haha. And some instruments I play, I don’t currently have access to or don’t own one so I’m not able to practice regularly.
Here’s the list of instruments that I play/ can play. Piano, Saxophone, Clarinet, Organ, Djembe, Pan flute, flute, accordion, violin, Cornet.
My main instruments are piano and saxophone.
For example, I learned the Djembe and played it during my time playing in an Afro-Cuban band. Haha. I mainly played piano in the band. But I ended up learning the Djembe at the request of the band since they needed a drummer for one of the songs and I ended up doing performances for a few songs with the drum for about a year or two. I wish I could get my hands on one to practice it. It was so much fun! Hopefully sometime in the future I’ll be able to!
All the other instruments I can play have stories to them of why and how I ended up playing them. But I won’t go through all of them since there’s a lot. Haha.
I haven’t added them as live recordings into my songs yet. Mainly because I live with a housemate and I also live in a condo complex. And recording live music isn’t always the easiest especially considering I work a lot during the night time. So I usually gravitate towards mixing with software or synths. But I really want to add more instruments and live recordings to my music! I’m definitely planning on adding some saxophone and some live percussion instruments into my recordings soon for sure!
Q. Have you performed live in the past? If not, any plans to do so?
I’ve performed live many times in the past. I’ve been performing music on stage since I can remember. More seriously as a concert pianist and concert/ jazz saxophonist tons of times during my high school, college years and beyond. Almost every other month I was performing something on stage during my high school and college years. I think performing is just something that’s in my blood. And I’d definitely really love to plan performances for the future for Maestro Eternal. I’m kind of loosely planning on and working on some small live performances in summer 2023. I have some big plans for the live show experience of Maestro Eternal and I’m hoping that will give me enough time to plan them out and make them happen! I have a huge passion for live performances and they’re definitely in the plan, even if they’re small, more intimate shows.
Q. You openly talk about your mental health on your social media pages and rightfully so! What advice would you give to anyone out there that is struggling with their mental health?
Mental health is something I used to shy away from talking about a lot. It’s still something that’s a vulnerable subject I think for anyone and I feel that way about it in my own life too. But I’ve had to admit and accept that it’s been a huge part of my own journey and struggles. So I started sharing more of them more recently.
I always feel like it’s always such a tough thing to give people advice on mental health in general since everyone has their own journey with it. But if you were my friend that was currently struggling with mental health issues, I would say you’re definitely not alone and there is always help. Having mental health issues, no matter what they are, always makes you feel isolated and alone. But you have to remind yourself that you’re not. It’s never hopeless and there’s always a solution, though it may feel hopeless or too much sometimes. I’ve definitely felt that way so many times in my own life. So I also have to remind myself of this too. Also something that’s helped me too is to remind yourself that “This too shall pass” and take things one day or even one moment at a time.
I’m not a professional and I can only speak from my own experience. So I can’t say what would work for someone else. But honestly, what’s really helped me lately is practicing mindfulness. People with mental health issues, personality disorders or just people who have been through a lot in general have the tendency to get very overwhelmed with their emotions or stress or anxiety, etc. And practicing mindfulness has greatly improved my life lately. I’d suggest anyone struggling with mental health issues consider looking into practicing some form of mindfulness because I believe it’s a good starting point for grounding, healing and learning how to deal with unwanted thoughts and emotions.
Q. What has been your biggest disappointment?
Currently, my biggest disappointment is that Henry Cavill isn’t coming back as Gerlat of Rivera in the Witcher season 4! I mean, come on! Really, Henry?? Haha!
But on a serious note, I think my biggest disappointment in life would be spending time and energy on things and on certain people that only took advantage of me and my time and energy in the long run.
I think my biggest disappointment has been mostly in myself in a way. Like not trusting in myself and listening to my own intuition in certain things in life when I feel like it mattered most. And keeping myself and my own potential down for listening to people who didn’t have my best interest in mind. And just not being choosy about who I give my time and energy to. When really they were just giving me advice based on their own fears, reservations or beliefs that were totally wrong for my life and they didn’t really want the best for me. I’ve learned to listen to myself a lot more in the past few years and trust myself more. But it’s been my biggest disappointment I think and it’s still taking time to forgive myself for it.
Q. What do you consider your greatest achievement?
This one is a deep one for me. But I think so far my biggest achievement in life is becoming an independently stable person without the help of anyone and having the freedoms of those things despite some of the things I’ve been through. I won’t go into this too much. But I lost my parents, both in very tragic ways when I was around 21 years old. I had to take on a lot of huge responsibilities during that time. And didn’t have any other family to lean on during and after that time period. I’ve talked about it a few times briefly on my socials so don’t think it’s something that’s brand new to some of my fans and friends. But overcoming that hardship was the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. I’m so proud of myself for getting through it and not giving up. I would say overcoming grief and still living and striving to accomplish my own dreams is the greatest accomplishment I’ve had so far.
Q. Name 3 things from your bucket list
Ooo I love these types of questions. Haha. Okay, definitely to see the northern lights in Iceland or Sweden is on the top of my list. And then the next would probably be to climb Mount Everest. Even if it’s just to the base camp of Mount Everest. Haha. That one’s not a super ambitious goal honestly. But I just want to stay I’ve been there. And the third would be to ride the Orient Express. For those that don’t know. Yes, that’s still a thing. Haha. More specifically it’s called the Venice Simplon Orient Express and it looks seriously amazing. I really love trains a lot actually, especially luxury trains. It’s one of my top favorite ways to travel and I’d love to take the Orient Express trip one day!
Q. Looking to the future. What are your hopes and dreams?
I think my hopes are a lot like pretty much the majority of musicians out there. I hope one day I can support myself financially by being able to just compose and perform music. I think anyone’s ultimate hope is to be able to support themselves while doing something they really love and something they know they were put on this earth to do. I’d love to have that life and I work everyday towards making that happen.
Another huge hope I have is to finish my Master’s Degree in Music and I’m making plans to go back to college soon to finish that journey which will be really exciting. I’ve always seen myself eventually as an actual Maestro or conductor of an orchestra. That would be a dream! Haha. Also, looking to the future, I hope that I can move more into working on some film projects. Not really shifting in style of music. I’ll always love the style of music I’m creating currently. But maybe shifting into taking on more film projects and being able to work with other creatives on bigger projects than just my own would be really cool!
Also like I mentioned before, I’d really love to plan on doing some smaller live shows. I’ve made kind of a loose deadline for the summer of 2023 to maybe start doing some small live shows to see if anyone is interested. And I think it would be super fun to try and accomplish that if everything aligns!
In the very very far future, I hope and dream that whoever is left on this planet once I’ve long passed on can listen back to my music and it impacts them somehow. I dream that someone in the future needs my music and gets something out of it. That I can speak to them not with words, but through melodies. And they can say that even though I don’t belong to the mortal world any longer, that they felt my soul speak to them.
Thank you, Devon, for taking part in this Q&A. I wish you all the luck in the world with your future ventures.
Is there anything else you would like to add?
Thank you, Andy! That really means a lot! I’d like to add that I appreciate every single person who listens to and is interested in my music and in Maestro Eternal and in me. And just want to give a special shout out to all of you. Thank you for all of your support and for your love. And if you got all the way through this interview, thank you for being interested and reading all the way through it! Haha.
I’d also like to add that it’s been a huge pleasure and honor to have been invited for this Q&A, Andy. It seriously means so much to me! Thank you for the opportunity! And I wish you all the best as well.